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>> The following message is PRIVATE::: Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A110990 Date: 06/01/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:16 am To: RICK STOLZ (Rcvd) (Read 7 times) Subj: COMPRESS RICK, I compressed the hd on my old computer. It had 118 problem areas. I have a compression type command from dos 3.3 on the 386, and used that. What program did you use to get the menu when you boot. I was thinking of putting something like that on both of mine. Part of the autoexec bat files from the pc-tools went into my extended memory, so at least that isn't still a total waste. MIKE............ Following thread >> The following message is PRIVATE::: Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A110990 Date: 06/01/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:16 am To: RICK STOLZ (Rcvd) (Read 8 times) Subj: COMPRESS RICK, I compressed the hd on my old computer. It had 118 problem areas. I have a compression type command from dos 3.3 on the 386, and used that. What program did you use to get the menu when you boot. I was thinking of putting something like that on both of mine. Part of the autoexec bat files from the pc-tools went into my extended memory, so at least that isn't still a total waste. MIKE............ >> The following message is PRIVATE::: Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A3C3129 Date: 06/03/89 From: RICK STOLZ Time: 08:52 am To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 5 times) Subj: R: COMPRESS Mike, I will still try to get you PC Tools that is a better and faster compress. You will like it much better. If we can't figure how to log on together I will seld you a disk by mail. The other program that you seen is Main Menu. It is in my auto exec. when the computer is turned on I can give you that too. Rick%%% >> The following message is PRIVATE::: Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A3G0613 Date: 06/03/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:10 pm To: RICK STOLZ (Rcvd) (Read 5 times) Subj: R: COMPRESS RICK, I did get a copy of tools. I goit loaded on both machiens, and compressed them both. It looks like the drought has the phone lines messed up. Look at the gap between line two, and three. MIKE........... >> The following message is PRIVATE::: Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A3R2986 Date: 06/03/89 From: RICK STOLZ Time: 10:49 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 3 times) Subj: R: COMPRESS Mike, I know that everytime you leave me a message it allways doubles. It repeats the message twice. even though they have the same numbers . It dosent do it for eny other messages you send others. maybe it is just on my machine. Rick%%% >> The following message is PRIVATE::: Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A4F2816 Date: 06/04/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 11:46 am To: RICK STOLZ (Rcvd) (Read 4 times) Subj: R: COMPRESS RICK, I have never seen , or heard of that happening. I know that if a message is carboned, and you scan all of the new messages, it will come up twice, but I haven't been leaveing carbon copies. BTW How's the fishing? MIKE........... >> The following message is PRIVATE::: Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A5A1697 Date: 06/05/89 From: RICK STOLZ Time: 06:28 am To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 4 times) Subj: R: COMPRESS Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2M1763 Date: 06/02/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:29 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 41 times) Subj: R: SIGNATURE I have had this signature, named "LOGODULL", for quite some time as an uploadable file, but that was too tedious. Once I figured out how to turn it into a Procomm+ macro without Procomm+ stripping the high bits (and if you've never had your high bits stripped . . .), I began to use it; two keystrokes and it's there. The alternative was "LOGOFANC", which looks like this: ╥ ║ ╓─╖ ╓─╖ ╥ ║ ║ ║ ╟─╜ ╙─╜ ╙─╜ ╙─╜ I tried out LOGOFANC a few times and David Birch liked the idea so much, he asked me how to do it and worked up his own version. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2P2720 Date: 06/02/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:45 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: SIGNATURE Joe, Hmm, I'm gonna have to try to have MY high bits stripped now that I'm aware that it can be done. I knew there had to be this fascinating story behind the appearance of your new sig. Thanks for telling us the rest of the story. Clem C (who retains his dull and pedestrian moniker) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2M2002 Date: 06/02/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:33 pm To: RAY WAGNER (Rcvd) (Read 42 times) Subj: R: ONE UP ON WALL STREET Ah, the one that got away! Stocks seem to have new life breathed into them once we sell them, don't they? As long as we have some "thrills of victory" to talk about to temper the "agony of defeats", no harm is done. Not every pick will be a winner and not every stock sold will subsequently prove to be a loser. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A310217 Date: 06/03/89 From: RAY WAGNER Time: 01:03 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 42 times) Subj: R: ONE UP ON WALL STREET Joe; Based on what I have been reading in this conference, will you make an evaluation of my latest exploits? 1) Oct 8 87 bought company A at 16 1/8 2) Oct 30 87 after crash worth 7 7/8 3) Apr 6 88 Sold at 15 1/8 4)Company has since merged with another & I think I got out at the top. 5) Apr 6 88 Bought Company B at 31 1/4 6) Aug 5 88 Sold at 42 5/8 (also got 15 cent dividend.) 7) Aug 5 88 Bought company C at 42 1/4 8) May 11 89 Sold at 62 5/8 (also got 46 cent dividend x 3) 9) May 11 89 Bought Company D at 32 5/8 (No change to date) All this was recommended by full service broker, so he got some perety nice commisions on the deal. What ya think? Ray Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A3J0818 Date: 06/03/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 03:13 pm To: RAY WAGNER (Rcvd) (Read 39 times) Subj: R: ONE UP ON WALL STREET Well, you weren't hurt too badly on Company A; it could have been worse and you couldn't have foreseen the crash. On Company B and C, you made 35% (105.6% annualized) and 47% (61% annualized) respectively. I would say that, if you can do this consistently, you can start planning for early retirement. Your broker sounds as if he doesn't "churn" your account and you can't argue with his performance. If it ain't broke . . . -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A4I1667 Date: 06/04/89 From: RAY WAGNER Time: 02:27 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: ONE UP ON WALL STREET Joe: I keep thinking that the returns would be much nicer without his steep commisions, but then I don't have time to spend charting, digging out all the goodies on companies, etc. Does it seem like I may have a touch of that old human thing called greed? Each time I think that way ,I go back to those percentages you mentioned and try not to be too greedy. Ray Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A4J2243 Date: 06/04/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 03:37 pm To: RAY WAGNER (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: ONE UP ON WALL STREET Your broker seems to be earning his commissions for now. Remember, bulls can make money and bears can make money, but pigs never do. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A5R3107 Date: 06/05/89 From: RAY WAGNER Time: 10:51 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: ONE UP ON WALL STREET Joe; It seems to me that I have heard that once or twice before. Ray Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2M2305 Date: 06/02/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:38 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: PC-TOOLS Thanks for your compliment on my signature. See message to Clem for the story. Your prediction for a correction? Well, good news seems to alternate with bad news and the market seems to move in reaction to either in any way which darn well pleases it at the moment. I have the same feeling I have when my wife is giving me directions for rearranging furniture. Your logic for predicting a correction this month is impeccable. Therefore, you're probably 180° off. Remember the definition of a correction as opposed to a crash? A correction is when YOUR stocks go down; a crash is when MY stocks go down. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A320700 Date: 06/03/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 02:11 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: PC-TOOLS JOE, When MINY fell to 1 1/2 I bought more. Since then, it has done well. If it corrects, then we have a crash. MIKE............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2P2428 Date: 06/02/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:40 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, Yeah, and I'm sure it hurts you more than it hurts them, right? Me? I use handcuffs more than fisticuffs. Who Dini Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2P2563 Date: 06/02/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:42 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, Heard that Oliver North called Bush a while back. He purposely mumbled his ehe conversation so that the President would say, "Pardon?". Bush Garden Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A320891 Date: 06/03/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 02:14 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 39 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS WHO DINI, It does hurt me more. I hit a guy one time, and a bone popped in my wrist. I was hurting, and he was laughing. I guess that it's only safe to hit fat guys in the belly. ROCKY.............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A5P1493 Date: 06/05/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:24 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 40 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, You didn't have a bone to pick with these guys, did you? And whataya mean to say, you DIDN'T know to go for the soft underbelly of your opponent? Fat's hard to believe. Minnesota Fats Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A5S2113 Date: 06/05/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 11:35 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 39 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, Well how's the drought in NJ? We had a lot of rain in May. There was so much rain that there was flooding. Gee these droughts are tough! MIKE............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ADR2316 Date: 06/09/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:38 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, Drought? Hell, we've had 9 straight days of rain this month - and it's only nine days old. May was the wettest on record. Flood warnings are out again today. My ark is three-quaters completed. And I'm using a beach umbrella to keep the rain away. I've also washed my brain and can't do a thing with it. Wet 'N(ot) Dry Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AE12988 Date: 06/10/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 01:49 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, I wonder if the scientist will stop talking about the greenhouse effect for a while. I have been reading the messages that you have been uploading, and I find them of value. Any amount on knoledge is always is helpfull. MIKE............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEC2571 Date: 06/10/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:42 am To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, I've heard mor talk about the Mr. Greenjeans effect than the greenhouse effect lately. For my part, could never understand why it's called the GREENhouse effect. I'd have called it the HOThouse effect. But what do I know? INVST608.ZIP has been uploaded. There's lots of messages in this file. Glad you find it useful. I note 11 downloads for INVST604.ZIP. So, obviously quite a few find them useful, informative, or whatever. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEI3055 Date: 06/10/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 02:50 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, Thanks for the upload of invst608.zip. I'm going to dl it when I get done here. I looked at my charts today, and I still feel that next Friday will be a good short. If you get to send this theory to the other board, it might get some good discussion. MIKE............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AFP0062 Date: 06/11/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:01 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, You're welcome. I've already uploaded INVST610.ZIP. The messages keep coming on Interlink. And all of the messages here are sent along to Interlink. We'll see if this one generates any responses. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AG11049 Date: 06/12/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:17 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, Tommorow I go short. In March, I said that June 16 was the day, and I am sticking by it. Yoy send all of the messages from here? I didn't think that those guys liked to read about fishing. MIKE............... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHQ3153 Date: 06/13/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:52 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, Those guys are fishers among men - or some such thing. OK, so I edit out the fish stories and those messages that would have meaning only to those who frequent this board. (Which means that practically all of mine are exorcised.) The rest all DO get through my filter. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AI11765 Date: 06/14/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 01:29 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, I'm glad that you edit the normal messages, otherwise those guys would think that we're all zanys like you. MIKE............... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AJQ0314 Date: 06/15/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:05 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, Yeah. And you want to hear the zaniest? They actually think I'm sane! Little do THEY know the troof, the whole troof, and nothing but the troof. Judge Wapner Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AK10726 Date: 06/16/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 01:12 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, If you want them to know the truth, just tell them to go long corn futures, because your feet are full of them. MIKE..................(tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AKQ2637 Date: 06/16/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:43 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 30 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, Not a corny as my remarks, which make the agony of de feet pale by comparison. Paul Bunion Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AL22549 Date: 06/17/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 02:42 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 31 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS PAUL BUNION, I could smell that agony of de feet all the way over here. MIKE.......... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMC1968 Date: 06/18/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:32 am To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, S, it really goes to prove you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing? Willard Scott Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMG0166 Date: 06/18/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:02 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, I thought that you were going to be out of the country. Wern't you going to be the new dictator of China. I know that you ate enough taters, but do you have the other part for the job? MIKE.................. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AXR1557 Date: 06/28/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:25 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, No, you have that wrong. I said I was going to be out of my mind, not out of the country. China? Table that remark. When you say dictator, do you mean I have to take dictation? Kelly Girl Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AY12105 Date: 06/29/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:35 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, As you see, this is the big time now! No more bullroar, except between you, and me. They all know if they see a message between the two of us, to not look for investment advice, but to look for a few laughs. So for all of you readers out there........"HA, HA, HA HA," MIKE........... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AZR3500 Date: 06/30/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:58 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 26 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Mike, yeah, I noticed that. Guess we'll have to send our japes privately. Wouldn't want to detract from the seriousness of the conference. Mona Gorilla Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2B1E3591 Date: 07/01/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 10:59 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Read 23 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS CLEM, I never saw Dave, Joe, or Rick leave non-investment oriented messages on this board, except when they try to emulate a certain two regulars here. Hey! Do you still have that IBM stock? At least the dividends keep comming! MIKE........... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2B1G3113 Date: 07/01/89 From: DAVID RUNKLE Time: 12:51 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 23 times) Subj: R: OPTIONS Oh, sure we leave non-investment oriented messages here. In fact, this is one... I was talking about DESQview, and my problems with the message system, double characters in the comm program, etc. .....dave Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2P3256 Date: 06/02/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:54 pm To: ALL (Read 36 times) Subj: MARKT531 The latest from Investor's Online: ┐4 Programs on both sides easily yanked around a market that possessed little sense of direction. Turnover improved only slightly from yesterday's levels and selective strength in technology helped feed some intrady rally attempts. Most averages finished slightly on plus side in spite of a late downdraft. In the last week, the DJIA has created a small (negative) non- confirmation between itself and the transports and utilities. This is not yet a big deal but could correspond to further trading setbacks if not addressed in the next week or so. The transports reached a new closing high on Friday & the utilities challenged their highs the same day, but the industrials didn't. Individual stocks still need tending to whether or not the non-confirmation stands. On bounces take some profits in UPJ, CHA, RBD in trading accounts. THE STRATEGIST - MAY 30, 1989 It was bound to happen. After all, eventually more people were going to recognize that it was not the same. It could not be hidden from the prying eyes of the media forever. The word is out. The front page of the May 26, 1989 Wall Street Journal says it all: "Persistent Rally." Apparently after nearly a year and a half, "... long rise in stocks finally gains converts." Does this mean that the trend is over, now that the majority has finally turned bullish? Hardly. While we do subscribe to contrary opinion theory, which advocates going against the crowd, we also recognize that there are times when the majority is correct, at least for a while. One of the features of C.O.T. is that before one goes contrary to the crowd, there first must be some technical reason, which is generally given by the market itself. In other words, one should not be contrary just to be contrary. It is also important to pay attention to what people are doing, not just to what they are saying. The old maxim that actions speak louder than words is correct when it comes to evaluating the marketplace. Even if it is correct that the consensus has shifted to the bullish case, there is no evidence that the majority has abandoned its cautious posture and now is shifting funds from CD's and money market funds. As simplistic as it is, the trend-is-your-friend approach to trading and investing generally proves to be effective. Earlier this year, we stated that we would "trade over the top," which means we will attempt to continue to exploit the advance until there is definitive evidence that the uptrend has fully run its course. This approach means that at some point we will be wrong, but if we an recognize our mistake early enough, our losses will be minimal. Those who have been waiting for the downleg, from the December 1987 low which was supposed to equal the October 1987 slide, have missed an advance of better than 40%. We have stated in pre-vious reports that we still see more stocks building or completing base patterns than we see building or completing topping formations. That is not to say that some stocks are not in trouble technically or that one should not be selective. However, there are still stocks that afford technical near- and intermeidiate-term opportunities. With the DJIA still several hundred points below its 1987 peak, we be-lieve there remains room for the market to move up. Undoubtedly some ex-tended groups and stocks will consolidate or even correct, just as the market as a whole has done from time to time. Nevertheless, the market has kept such adjustments relatively small and it has persisted in finding areas to exploit when it has been time for stocks and groups to rest or rotate out of favor. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2P3364 Date: 06/02/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:56 pm To: ALL (Read 36 times) Subj: INVST601.ZIP Activity has really been picking up on the Interlink conference. Lots of messages on a variety of topics have appeared in the last few days. It would behoove everyone to capture this file and read the text. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2P3566 Date: 06/02/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:59 pm To: ALL (Read 37 times) Subj: INVESTOR'S ONLINE STUFF Part one of two containing messages from Investor's Online: Msg: #4614 Sec: 6 - INVESTMENT SOFTWARE Subj: #4613 - COMMODITY SOFTWARE (R) From: Joel Tepp To: Clem Contardo (X) Here are two suggestions for the enterprising "explorer" who is wise enough not to trust in a black box. On the low end of the scale is Technifilter Plus which runs around $399. This is a program for back- testing all sorts of systems. The user develops a set of buy, stop and sell signals and then gets a summary report on how the system would have worked based on past market data. (profitability testing) The high end of the same scale is System Writer Plus which checks in at a hefty $1995 (the Computrac of trading systems analysis). What you get, in addition to an elaborate version of the previously described package is a VERY friendly interface. One of the occasional log-ons on this board, John Morgan, has a copy. Perhaps he can report on his progress with the software. When I last spoke to him a couple of months ago, he was very happy with it, but had only had it for a short while. I hope these comments are helpful. I'm also aware of some software that generates tick-by-tick simulations for "real-time" trading practice, but that sort of thing had no appeal for me, so I haven't investigated further. Our research people use Technifilter Plus, and handle over $60 million in mutual fund money using signals developed with its help. We're currently evaluating System Writer and will decide whether it's worth its hefty price-tag over the course of the summer. By the way, to the best of my knowledge neither program supports a math co-processor at this time (System Writer might, TFP definitely does not... but the next version ought to). A 286 (minimum) is advised. If there are any further questions about these programs, leave a message for me here, I'll be happy to supply further details. Msg: #4615 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 27-May-89 11:51 AM Subj: #4580 - Welcome (R) From: Graham Cole To: Brian P. Lewin (X) IPSS as I understand it is the international version of Tymnet/Telenet This can only connect to commercial systems like Compuserve, The Source etc which have a leased line connection to the local PSS node. BBS systems like this can only be accessed via a direct call as the only interface is a modem connected to a telephone line. Hope this answers your question. Graham Cole. Msg: #4616 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 28-May-89 08:27 PM Subj: Stock charts (R) From: Sysop To: Keith Moeller (X) Keith, if you have a chance you may wish to download the following stocks which all have impressive charts and are on the move; Quiksilver (QUIK), Occupational Urgent care (OUCH), Intervoice (INTERVOI), Vivigen (VIVI) and BankAmerica (BANKAM) Msg: #4620 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 30-May-89 03:00 AM Subj: LONDON EXCHANGE (R) From: Brian P. Lewin To: SYSOP (X) Assuming you like the look of the London market, then you could consider buying Plessey, STC, Hanson Trust (boring, but reliable), British Airways (recently recommended by Merril Lynch ET AL, AND featured in Barrons), and dollar plays such as Jaguar (takeover rumours here, possibly ford) and also Glaxo, ICI and Courtaulds (textiles). Feel free to make my comments available to other users of this service Msg: #4621 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 30-May-89 05:42 AM Subj: #4620 - LONDON EXCHANGE (R) From: Sysop To: Brian P. Lewin (X) Thank you for your quick response. Do you have any information available on Glaxco, ICI and Courtaulds such as earnins projections for 1989 and 1990? Msg: #4622 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 30-May-89 06:38 AM Subj: #4621 - LONDON EXCHANGE (R) From: Brian P. Lewin To: Sysop (X) I have none of the information you asked for at present. As you may have realised by now, I only follow technical data, all else is in the price. If you can leave me a fax no. I will fax you thease charts. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A2Q0143 Date: 06/02/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:02 pm To: ALL (Read 38 times) Subj: INVESTOR'S ONLINE II Part two of the Investor's Online messages: Msg: #4623 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 30-May-89 06:15 PM Subj: #4622 - LONDON EXCHANGE (R) From: Sysop To: Brian P. Lewin (X) The fax number is 206 641-4936. However, is it possible that you can upload the data so that we can put it on the BBS?? Msg: #4624 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 30-May-89 06:49 PM Subj: TELEPHONE NUMBERS From: R. Buck Gray To: SYSOP (X) Sorry, I misplaced the subscriber phone numbers . . . when you get a chance I'd appreciate you leaving me a message advising me what they are. On your Lotus spreadsheet of special "SLIM" stocks - I like the idea. If you had 3 or 4 sets of information, perhaps I could run them through an inference program (KnowledgeMaker) to determine what led to good results recently. Regards. Msg: #4625 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 31-May-89 03:09 AM Subj: #4623 - LONDON EXCHANGE (R) From: Brian P. Lewin To: Sysop (X) Faxes will be with youy shortly. Unfortunatly I don't think that I can upload these charts as i don't have the correct software to interface between my charting software and my terminal emulation package. This also means that I don't seem to be able to view any downloaded files at present. When I have solved this problem, I will let you know. Regards brian Msg: #4626 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 31-May-89 05:15 AM Subj: #4625 - LONDON EXCHANGE From: Sysop To: Brian P. Lewin Brian, try downloading the file on this BBS called IMCAP2.ARC. It is a good capture program and easy to operate. By using the capture program you should be able to capture your charts online with it and then upload them to the BBS. On most computers after de-arcing the file just enter IMCAP and this activates the capture program. Then when you have a chart or whatever on your screen of your computer just push the shift key and the print screen at the same time and it will be captured. Let me know if this works. Msg: #4627 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 31-May-89 02:42 PM Subj: #4606 - Files to upload (R) From: Bruce Mcdonald To: Sysop (X) I can send them to you on disk if you would like, They take up about 8- 10 disks. You may want these because they have been updated. I fyou do let me know. I will be joining your group more often. Msg: #4628 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 31-May-89 06:32 PM Subj: #4627 - Files to upload From: Sysop To: Bruce Mcdonald Yes, if you can send by disc and I will return after I post to the BBS. Thanks in advance. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A4M0875 Date: 06/04/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 06:14 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 41 times) Subj: R: WIT Mike, so far so good on the long side.. I have been and will be away for a bit, as it seems I have bad FAT.. at least according to the messages on my screen, and this after only about 6 months of using this new Vendex.. Any idea on where to get software and instructions so I can give a low level format and start fresh? I have 16K in bad sectors all of a sudden, and I am suspecting a power surge when the power company fixed the line coming into the house.. J... Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A4M1511 Date: 06/04/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 06:25 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: WIT P.D.Q. B. Lucky for me, Miss Earwax never checked beHIND my ears.. it was soggy indeed.. I am taking my almost new AT clone in for reformatting the hard disk, unless I can figure out how to do it myself.. I was chagrined the other day to have the screen tell me I have bad FAT, as well as bad sectors.. although I was able to bring up ProComm, not much else works, and even Procomm is giving funny messages.. J... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A4S3073 Date: 06/04/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 11:51 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: WIT JOHN, I believe that PC-TOOLS will clean up your drive with the compress option. At least it's a lot easier, and safer then a format. I didn't get the chance to go long, because my account wasn't transfered yet. I will be shorting soon. I got see a flat day before I am going to do it though. As long as it keeps going up, I am staying away. MIKE................. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A5P1821 Date: 06/05/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:30 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 42 times) Subj: R: WIT P.D.Q., Can I take it you're no LONGER wet behind your auditory appendages? Sorry to hear about you computer. Had a brief scare tonight with mine. I tried to zip the latest Interlink conference messages. Suddenly got a 131 on the screen. Then nothing. When I restarted the Model 50, got a 162 and 163 error message. In IBM parlance this is a configuration problem. Ran the config disk, but the message reappeared. Then tested the computer. This was unfortunate. Begain getting system errors, even one telling my my hard disk controller was kapooie. Not good. Beginning to sweat, ran the config again. This time, when I rebooted, all worked fine. But almost had the big heart attack there for a few minutes. I hope THIS never happens again. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AAM1444 Date: 06/06/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:24 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 40 times) Subj: R: WIT Re: " . . . I have bad FAT." Is that anything like LDL cholesterol? There are many alternatives for addressing your problem. "Spinrite" will test disk sectors and find bad ones or resurrect good ones which are marked bad while leaving your data intact. "Disk Manager" is a complete package (distributed with Seagate and other drives larger than 32MB). IBM Advanced Diagnostics for the AT will do low-level format, among other things. Are you SURE you need to do a low-level? Re: the power surge. Is your system on a surge protector? If so, and it was overpowered by a surge, it's either burned out or was never worth a fig in the first place. You might want to seek counsel over in the MS DOS Hardware topic. There are some real disk gurus over there. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AAM1601 Date: 06/06/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:26 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: WIT Clem, sounds as if your battery, which powers the CMOS which retains your configuration data, is getting weak. Better replace it before your system goes brain dead. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ADR2544 Date: 06/09/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:42 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: WIT Joe, Thanks for your concern. Turns out that a file I tried to ZIP caused the system to go wacko. I ran the config on the IBM Model 50 reference disk and, with a large sigh of relief, all has been OK now. When I get my 386 later this year, all this'll be moot anyway. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ALL2287 Date: 06/17/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 05:38 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: WIT Thanks, Mike.. I tried PCTools and Norton, but in the end I couldn't delete or access files in the root directory, so I went on to reformat with FDisk. Still not finished trying to recover everything!! J... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ALL2468 Date: 06/17/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 05:41 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: WIT Clem.. Glad to hear your CPU is OK again.. mine is getting there I think, but it's a longer process than man should endure.. J... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ALL2694 Date: 06/17/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 05:44 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 31 times) Subj: R: WIT Joe, I would never forsake the investment board for the Hardware Topic! Well maybe once or twice.. but I lost patience too soon with my disk mess and then went ahead without making sure I was all backed up.. FDISK is no better than a low level format when it comes to wiping a disk clean.. But I'll be back listening to investment advice pretty soon! J... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMC2467 Date: 06/18/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:41 am To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: WIT John, Here's hoping it's back to it's feeling fully chipper by the time I return from vacation. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMG0010 Date: 06/18/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:00 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: WIT JOHN, Well is everything going to work properly when you are done? I got the advantage of being able to zip files over to my other computer to save them. I got out of my shorts on Friday morning as planned. I got a little bit, but it wasn't the type of move that I anticipated. I hate to say it, but I see shades of 87 here. If we get a super summer rally, I will be cash at the end of August. MIKE............ Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMG0311 Date: 06/18/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 12:05 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: WIT Hope you get your disk mess straightened out soon. You're missed here! When working with computers, it becomes immediately apparent that the speed of today's machines allows one to compound a simple mistake into a rapidly propagated disaster. Computers allow us to make mistakes MUCH more quickly than we could ever do before. -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMG2402 Date: 06/18/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 12:40 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: WIT John, if you have Norton Advanced Edition 4.5, did you try the Norton Disk Doctor program? If you can get to the drive at all, NDD will assess the situation, tell you what the problem is and offer to fix it. A good book to obtain is "The Paul Mace Guide to Data Recovery". Have you tried the obvious things, such as CHKDSK drive: /F? -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ATG3565 Date: 06/24/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 12:59 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: WIT Mike, Yesterday's move makes me satisfied that I failed to go short. Maybe we are destined for higher numbers yet! J... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ATH0230 Date: 06/24/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 01:03 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: WIT Joe, Right, but it wasn't the speed of the computer that compounded my simple mistake.. it was the absence of chips in the memory between my ears.. I got carried away with impatience when I brought Norton Utilities from the office, on a bad disk!.. so I said to h... with it, and reformatted when I couldn't delete root directory files any more (because of the bad cholesterol).. J... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ATH0779 Date: 06/24/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 01:13 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: WIT John, pleased to see that you're back on the air, bad FAT not withstanding. BTW, did you try Norton Disk Doctor (NDD) on your corrupted HD? Nice product! As John Dvorak would say, "highly recommended." -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ATJ2084 Date: 06/24/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 03:34 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: WIT JOHN, If you have read the messages between Joe, and myself you will see that we feel the same. I say long until late August, and Joe will wait for the market to tell him what will happen. MIKE............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ATS2065 Date: 06/24/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 11:34 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: WIT Joe, I borrowed Norton Disk Doctor, but the floppy had bad sectors and NDD was not readable.. talk about frustration.. I could write a book! That's when I kicked the cat, cursed my FAT, and hit it with a bat.. I realize now that I could have saved a lot of data even though the root directory was not reachable.. so soon ve get oldt, und too late schmart! J... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2A5P2210 Date: 06/05/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:36 pm To: ALL (Read 40 times) Subj: INVST604.ZIP The Interlink conference messages from 6/2 to 6/4 are now in the file area. Is anyone still reading these messages? Clem C Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AAM1757 Date: 06/06/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:29 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 40 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP I am reading every one of your uploads. One way to see if there is any download activity is to go to the files menu and ask for <E>xtra information on one of the files. You'll get the number of downloads, among other things. If the interest is too low to make it worth your time, I'll understand. It's your call, but I would miss them. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ADR2685 Date: 06/09/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:44 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Joe, It's copacetic. I'll continue to upload them if only you and a few others find them worthwhile. The last four days has seen a flood of messages. The INVST608.ZIP file if 50,000 bytes. Will upload it tomorrow. Thanks for letting me know you find them useful. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEE0815 Date: 06/10/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 10:13 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Re: INVST608.ZIP ≈ 50,000 bytes. Are you using SMARTZIP 0.90 to guarantee maximum compression? Would minimize your upload time. BTW, where is everybody? Are we in the summer BBS doldrums? I can't imagine that anyone has anything better to do than spend Saturdays at a keyboard corresponding with faceless entities in other cities. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AFN3365 Date: 06/11/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 07:56 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Joe, Using SMARTZIP 0.90? No, that's a new one on me. I'm using mental telepathy, so upload time is no problem. (But what is SMARTZIP?) That's what I'd like to know? Where is everyone. Acitivity here has slowed, it seems, in direct proportion that it's picked up on Interlink. Strange. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AGM1880 Date: 06/12/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:31 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP SmartZIP 0.90 (SMRTZP09.ZIP in the Mahoney collection) is a companion program to PKZIP. SmartZIP is used essentially INSTEAD of PKZIP (it SHELLs out to PKZIP internally) to isolate and use the best possible compression algorithm for each file within a ZIP file. For example, to create or add to a ZIP file called "MYZIP.ZIP", you would simply enter : SMARTZIP MYZIP This would use "*.*" as a file mask by default, but file masks with wild cards are allowed. SMARTZIP would try shrinking and then binary (reducing) level 4. If level 4 yielded better compression than shrinking, SMARTZIP would try levels 3 to 1 searching for better compression. The result is the smallest possible ZIP file. I use it every day, mainly because I wrote it out of my own need for such a program. The "extra" description and the .DOC files tell all. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHR0054 Date: 06/13/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:00 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Joe, OK, now I understand. I use ArcMaster myself, which also sets ZIP for its best compression level. Still, I might get SMART. Agent 99 Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AIL3379 Date: 06/14/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 05:56 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Nope, ArcMaster won't do it, I don't think ─ not unless it empirically identifies the optimum compression algorithm individually for EACH file within a given ZIP file. There is no such thing as the best compression level for ALL files. Even if you use Phil's "-ex" option, which selects the best of either "shrinking" (the default) or -e4 (level 4 reducing), there are still some files for which -e1, -e2 or -e3 yield the optimum compression. The only way to get the optimum compression for EACH file individually within a given ZIP file is to use a program like SmartZIP, which empirically isolates the optimum compression algorithm file-by-file. Well, I'm beginning to hyperventilate again, so I should stop now. -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AJQ0553 Date: 06/15/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:09 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Joe, O.K., you've convinced me. This, and your messages on Phil's BBS, have compelled me to get Smart. Either that, or I'm afraid you'll put me to the rack and I'll be the one who's compressed. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AKE0302 Date: 06/16/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 10:05 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Clem, Do you have a phone in your shoe for quick trades when about town, too? I really have to get some time for CServe soon. Been working on configuring a Sperry AT for trading. Finally have everything but Exp. memory ordered or here. Got a great deal on a NEW 49Meg Seagate RLL drive for $279, which means my 60Meg Tape back-up from my XT will keep Murphy's law from catching me. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AKQ2918 Date: 06/16/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:48 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Paul, Sounds as if you're getting a system that will rival Mike Perry's. And me with a measly Model 50 with a 20 Mb HD. The gods must be angry with me. (I'll be going to London on vacation on Monday, so my messages and uploads here will be non-existent from the 19th to about the 27th or so. I'm asking everyone to keep the market honest while I'm gone. If you get you're system up, I'm sure you'll do your part in this effort.) Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ALD0632 Date: 06/17/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 09:10 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Enjoy the trip! I remember when I was in Turkey (the country), I used to sell Levi's to Limey tourist's for $15 a pair. That was the late 60's, so my cost was $5-6 dollars. The Turks loved Kennedy Halves, so I used to give them for tips. Hopefully, the system should be up and running in a week. I've wanted to upgrade and with the numbers of people going to 386's, there is alot of CHEAP 286's available. The Sperry IT I picked up was $375 with a co-processor installed! I liked the fact it had nine expansion slots, unlike many of the newer cases with six or less. I even tried the hard card from my XT clone and it booted perfectly. But I'm a sucked for a bigger drive at that price. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ALM0515 Date: 06/17/89 From: JOHN WERMUTH Time: 06:08 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Joe, I'm so impressed to be talking to someone that has the smartz to write such a schmaltzy program that even tho I don't feel deprived yet, I will download and try out smart.zip!! When I retire maybe I will ask how to write such good stuff.. J... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMC2062 Date: 06/18/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:34 am To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Paul, Thanks. Sounds as if you Greeced a few palms when you were in Turkey. Here's wishing you all the best with your new system. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMG0511 Date: 06/18/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 12:08 pm To: JOHN WERMUTH (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Re: "When I retire maybe I will ask how to write such good stuff.." Perhaps when I learn to write such good stuff, I will be able to retire. -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AND2573 Date: 06/19/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 09:42 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Hope you have fun in England. Buying any suits? Great place for sartorial splendor! Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AXR1871 Date: 06/28/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:31 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: INVST604.ZIP Pual, I HAD a great time. But clothes are not my suit (they suit me not, which is why I generally walk around naked), so I didn't buy any. But Regent St. is a place for them all right. Burberry's Aquascutum, etc. are all there. Jean Paul Sartorial Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AA11770 Date: 06/06/89 From: DAVID ROGGE Time: 12:29 am To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 42 times) Subj: R: ON-LINE PAUL, Thanks for the information about the C-Serve spreadsheet program. I still use TWIN 1.5. Been thinking about upgrading to III but I think I remember hearing someone mention that there was quite a wait for the III so maybe I'll wait a while. 18 hour days! What type of work do you do? Sorry for slow reply - out of town for the last week. DAVE ROGGE Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AAG0015 Date: 06/06/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 12:00 pm To: DAVID ROGGE (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: ON-LINE No problem, I've been working (Computerized Bad Debt/Check Corp.) and trying to get Investograph + configured with the data files I have on 40+ issues. Some go back as far as 01/02/86, so it's a lengthy process. I'm almost done, thankfully. I have just rec'd Twin III Advanced, fanciest pkg I've seen. Wooden case and a Cross pen included. The software runs under DOS, but to fully use all the features, it needs more than 640K. Has multiple spreadsheet linking, search & replace, Learn mode, and All the grapics of Chartman. I haven't had time to read through the Three manuals, just skimmed them. They offered a upgrade for about $110. Cheaper than Lotus 3! It has drivers for EGA and will use all the memory it can find. I'm converting to a AT (Sperry), used unit so memory won't be a problem. If you want a copy of the upgrade info, let me know. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AC12498 Date: 06/08/89 From: DAVID ROGGE Time: 12:41 am To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: ON-LINE PAUL, Thanks for the info on TWIN III ! I think I'm getting a little excited about it. I only have 640K. How much memory does the fully loaded program itself use? I've heard QUATTRO is also a memory hog. I do have some rather giant worksheets so this could be a potential problem for me. Just exactly what can be accomplished with multiple worksheet "linking"? I have a copy of the Mosaic "upgrade mailing" - thanks. DAVE ROGGE Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ACE3011 Date: 06/08/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 10:50 am To: DAVID ROGGE (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: ON-LINE In a 640K PC W/O TSR'S, about 140-150K is open. I tried loading the "Total Investor" (TI) spreadsheet and got the out of memory report. That is probably the largest spreadsheet I have avail. for tests. I guess the reports that programs will expand as large as memory are true. Fortunately, memory chips are becoming more of a commodity item again. 256K 150-120Ns's are $5-7 each. So expanding to 1Meg is a $200-300 proposition, if you shop around. Linking is useful for budget or monthly reports. They can than be consolidated in Year-to-Date or End-of-Year Summary. The most useful additions are Learn (Keystroke Recording) which writes Macro's automatically and Search-and-Replace useful for What If's. I have heard that you can upgrade to Diamond (Spreadsheet & Word Processor Combo) thru PC-Systems on FL for $50. The same people that attempted to BUY Leading Edge out. Fell thru when the programmer for the LE Word Processor wanted his back royalties paid up. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AAF2130 Date: 06/06/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 11:35 am To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 39 times) Subj: R: INFO It does take time to understand any package, but when it means my $'s I REALLY want it right. Close to having everything set. Paul Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AB13388 Date: 06/07/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:56 am To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 39 times) Subj: R: INFO PAUL, It seems like everytime I have everything like I think that I want, I find another program that I feel that I need. If my autoexec.bat, and config.sys get any bigger, I may need a bigger hd. If only my portfolio would grow as fast. MIKE............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ABD1097 Date: 06/07/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 09:18 am To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: INFO I understand, I was thinking about a small system for home use and as luck would have it I found a Sperry-IT w/o KB, HD, or Monitor for $375 including a 80287. So I'm considering a Multi-sync GS and a 60-80 Meg HD and at least 1Mg of memory. It never stops. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ABH0704 Date: 06/07/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 01:11 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: INFO PAUL, I started with a Tandy 1000sx with a 20 meg hd.. Then I bought a Tandy 4000. (386 1meg ram 40 meg scshi drive) Then I had to connect the two of them so that I could use them as one big system. Sometimes I amaze myself with what I can make them do. At least I learned a little about computers , because of my investing. MIKE............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ACE2192 Date: 06/08/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 10:36 am To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: INFO I remember my first computer was a Timex TS-2068 64K. God, how our memory and system requirements grow. I'm shopping hard drives now. Looking at a Priam ID45, supposedly very reliable. As the price data files grow, loss becomes a larger issue than hardware cost. Ordered a NEC GS yesterday, graphic standards(?) change too rapidly these days. EGA today, tomorrow? Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ACH1627 Date: 06/08/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 01:27 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: INFO PAUL, I still got a Matell Intelivision computer. 64k, the works. When I got the 386, I went with VGA. It drops to ega, and cga, so for now, I got all basses covered. Check out a schsci type drive. They are super fast, and so far, I haven't had any troubles. When I was researching Minyscribe, I asked a lot of people about their drives. I only got good reports, but now that the company is in a financial mess, I don't know how safe a warrentee would be. MIKE............ Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ADD1850 Date: 06/09/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 09:30 am To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INFO Mike, Seems Seagate has a lock on most of the common drives. Heard reports that some of the newer models DO fail. I know SCSI are fast, but in a 8MHz AT 28Ms should be plenty fast. Reliability is probably the most imortant factor, even though I have tape back-up available. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ADH1617 Date: 06/09/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 01:26 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: INFO PAUL, I guess that any drive could fail, that's why we do backups. In that respect, price, and warrentee should be high priorities. Good luck! MIKE............ Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AAF2257 Date: 06/06/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 11:37 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 39 times) Subj: R: INVST515 I will, thanks for your efforts. Paul Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ADR2402 Date: 06/09/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:40 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 31 times) Subj: R: INVST515 Paul, Have a file INVST608.ZIP that's about 50,000 bytes to upload. Lots of activity on the Interlink conference lately. Will upload it tomorrow when I have more time. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AAG0827 Date: 06/06/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 12:13 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 39 times) Subj: I+ Joe, I'm STILL a novice but I want to understand the lines and squiggles. I+ had a very complete reference list in the appendix. Wilder's book is a source on so many of the articles, it was worth owning. I also have a discount source through Schwab, for some others. Additional comments on I+, it requires data files in a VERY specific format, so conversion of files takes TIME. But, as I was working last night doing just that, the President of Libery called personally (Bob McCollough). He wanted to answer some questions I reported last week. He was very helpful in suggestions for analysis and commission calculations for the trading portion. He will be sending a Demo! Also new version will support EGA. I won't post in the general collection, but anyone wanting a copy should contact me. There is 40+ pages of documentation with the demo, so he wants everyone to have the whole pkg. They will also answer any and all questions users of the demo have. I'll compute the cost of copying and then make the package available. They ask $10, but I can do it cheaper, in limited quantities. I will post a msg with information and the Toll-free number once it arrives. Is that fair enough? Regards, Paul Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AAL2472 Date: 06/06/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 05:41 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: I+ Paul, when you understand the lines and squiggles, you can explain them to the rest of us. Investment analysis is in the same league with reading tea leaves. (Don't pay any attention to me tonight ─ it's the antihistamines talking.) You're the point man on I+. I'm sure many of us will welcome your live reports and the availability of a demo. BTW, do they treat everybody as well as they're treating you or have they caught on to your participation on investment-oriented BBSes? -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ABD0790 Date: 06/07/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 09:13 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: R: I+ The BBS only came up later in the conversation. I offered to Beta test the EGA version, might reduce my cost? They offered to answer questions from users of the demo, a satisfied user always seems to sell additional software! I'm finally done converting ALL my spreadsheet and SCTA data over to I+'s format. I can now automate the data collection, portfolio update, and charting. One nice feature I plan to use is channel settings and automatic scan for break-outs. Seems like a good feature for Mkt/Indicator changes. I'll keep everyone up on the process. I understand that McCollough takes part in the lecture circuit, too. He mentioned of several trading strategies they've been testing, Wilder's RSI came in third. I'll give more info as I learn the in's & outs. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ACB0057 Date: 06/08/89 From: BOB BLAIR Time: 07:00 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: MIPS ARTICLE JOE, The latest issue of MIPS magazine has an investment software article that some of you might want to take a peek at. Would say more, but yes- terday was 12 hrs. at work and that did not leave enough time for much more than a glance. bb Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ACL3072 Date: 06/08/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 05:51 pm To: BOB BLAIR (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: MIPS ARTICLE Thanks for "bird-dogging" the MIPS article for us, Bob. I will definitely get a copy and review it. Re: " . . . 12 hrs. at work . . . ." Remember, Bob, your family loves you and your job can't love you back. ST251 still crankin'? -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHA2338 Date: 06/13/89 From: BOB BLAIR Time: 06:38 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: MIPS ARTICLE Both of them are still crankin', Joe. Yeah, good point about the family. The reason for the tardy reply. Took Friday thru Monday off. Walleye fishin' on Lake Erie. A little sea sickness ( 2-5 ft waves ), a few fish, and a good deal of getting away from work and computers. Probably improve my work efficiency by being away for a few days. Seems most of the better ideas come when I'm not there. Glad you left the message. It had slipped my mind to return to the MIPS and read the Wall Street article as well as a few others. bb Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHM0368 Date: 06/13/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:06 pm To: BOB BLAIR (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: MIPS ARTICLE Glad you got away from the office. Accumulating too many Work Units can make one bilious. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AIA2331 Date: 06/14/89 From: BOB BLAIR Time: 06:38 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: MIPS ARTICLE It did. And with the 3-5 ft waves, I gave it all to Lake Erie. The fish- ing was worth the momentary discomfort. bob Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ADD2302 Date: 06/09/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 09:38 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: INVST???.ZIP Clem, Thanks for the uploads, I've been scanning through them as time allows. I even save a ref to one of our discussions here. How many BBS's are included in the Forum you're uploading? The CompuServe uploads will continue, but time hasn't allowed me to capture the latest batch. Maybe Sat. Regards, Paul Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ADR2829 Date: 06/09/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:47 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Paul, The Investment Conference is carried on quite a few BBS's. But, until recently, the messages were from a select few boards. Lately, though, the number of conferees has picked up and so has the message base. INVST608.ZIP will be here tomorrow. Glad you find them useful. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHS1838 Date: 06/13/89 From: MARK BECKMAN Time: 11:30 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: INVST???.ZIP I don't understand--after I read about the invst 608 and 610 files I did a scan which had the latest listed as invst.529.zip. Any idea why? Also, I'm new to this board, I have a few stocks and funds also. Is their a good shareware program to keep track of a small amount of stocks? Thanks, Mark Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AIM0108 Date: 06/14/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:01 pm To: MARK BECKMAN (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Message CC'd to: MARK BECKMAN PAUL JALOSKY CLEM CONTARDO Mark, I don't know why INVST608 and INVST610 didn't show up. I'll go over to the Mahoney collection and see if they're still there. If not, I'll leave a message for Bob asking where they went. Re: a good shareware program to keep track of a small amount of stocks, you might look for SCTA, which Paul Jalosky and Clem Contardo use. It does charting and other things. Paul? Clem? Any comments? You guys know more about SCTA than I do. Any other ideas for good shareware portfolio tracking software? -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AIN3020 Date: 06/14/89 From: MARK BECKMAN Time: 07:50 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 38 times) Subj: INVST???.ZIP Thanks for the info., I found out I could download INVST608 and 610 they just were not listed when I did a scan for "invst" - a bug in the system, I guess. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AJG1888 Date: 06/15/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 12:31 pm To: MARK BECKMAN (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP There are several programs for tracking your sticks, etc. Total Investor is a Lotus 2.0+ spreadsheet application, Scan for TI and the companion DOW88.zip. There is a shareware version of SCTA in the Mahoney collection as well. MKTEGA or MKTCGA work with closing prices only and offer several tracking formulas, the documentaion is good, too. You might scan for STK, STOCK, and CHART for several others. I'll look in my ZIP's for some, ther are at least 8-10 available here. It mostly depends on how much you want to do. SCTA's registered version is only $10, which includes a Data Downloading module for Warner/CompuServe. Happy to answer any questions. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AJL1215 Date: 06/15/89 From: MARK BECKMAN Time: 05:20 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: INVST???.ZIP Paul, Thank you for your help. I d/l SCTA and will try and work with that for awhile. I am not into charting, but I want to keep better track of the investments that I do have. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AJM1886 Date: 06/15/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:31 pm To: MARK BECKMAN (Rcvd) (Read 36 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Perhaps the file index is built when Bob has his downtime every Thursday. I think I'll retry the scan tonight to see if they're indexed now. Glad you found them. -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AJQ0873 Date: 06/15/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:14 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Joe, I did a search for INVST6 and both files showed up. Now INVST614.ZIP is also there. (You'll note a message from Ted Young, creator of SCTA by the way, who admonishes me for sending up the WSOL messages verbatim. So, this means no more verbatim distribution of those messages here either.) SCTA is more for technical analysis, as you say. I believe there's a file called PROI - yes, it's PROI2.4F. Another is called Portworth. For myself, I use Lotus 1-2-3 and the Spreadsheet Link from Dow Jones to track my portfolio. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AKD2740 Date: 06/16/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 09:45 am To: MARK BECKMAN (Rcvd) (Read 37 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Mark, Here's a list of some of the programs available here with comments. HIGHTECH Stock tracking pkg. PC-STOCK " PFROI Return on Investments SM48 Updated by newer version SMEXPERT The update (I think) STKPLOT Plotting program STOCKMKT Lotus application STOCKS30 Another charting Pkg TI102A Lotus Spreadsheet W/Charting & Valuation (DOW88.ZIP-Data) TEKSTK Another Chart Pkg WATCHER " $TKTRX3 " (Nice Graphs) I think all of these are available as ZIP's here. My suggestion is download a few (some are Large +150K files) and see how they operate for you. Some are charting only others like TI102A are complete Valuation & Charting. Others like PFROI are Value only. Hope the info helps. Compare pricing to register, some are as expensive as Commercial pkg's and others are very reasonable. Hope the list helps. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AKJ0750 Date: 06/16/89 From: MARK BECKMAN Time: 03:12 pm To: PAUL JALOSKY (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP I'll try several of them, thanks for your response. I am just a small time investor, but thought I should be keeping better track of things. Mark Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AKL1039 Date: 06/16/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 05:17 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Hmmmmm. Seems to me Ted Young would be grateful for the gratis advertising, especially since we've sent them some business as a result of our laudatory mention of their publications and other offerings. But, if he's not interested in having their name and prognostications posted for nothing on the largest BBS in the world, the loss is theirs, not ours. It's a two-minute phone call ─ free via PC Pursuit ─ to get exactly the same thing and tie up their phone lines. Doesn't make any sense, but it's O.K. by me. -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AKQ3126 Date: 06/16/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:52 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Joe, If you read the message in the INVST614.ZIP file, you'll find that Ted thanks me for touting WMSI and WSOL. Still, he says that the commentray on the WSOL BBS is copywrighted and may not be quited in full. Since, as you say, anyone can call the board and read it for themselves, I find this strange, too, but I'm willing to abide by Ted's strictures. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ALC3127 Date: 06/17/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 08:52 am To: MARK BECKMAN (Rcvd) (Read 31 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP I thought some of the "Silent" participants might wonder what is available also. Some of the programs work very well for small (5-15) issues. Mutual fund purchase & sale timing is better with some programs than others. I hesitate to recommend any particular package because each persons needs vary. The documentation for every program is helpful for suggested readings (Books) and what various people feel is the most important. If anyone is interested in a comparison of BUY&HOLD vs. TRADING, look at "Stock Market Trading Systems" by Gerald Appel & Fred Hitschler, Dow Jones-Irwin, the difference is amazing. The data used is old, but Not too very different than today's market. It also suggest some indicators and how well they perform. I have Franklin Lib's copy but will be returning it next week. Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ALC3520 Date: 06/17/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 08:58 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 31 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP I agree with your opinion, Joe. I noticed Young is taking out ads in The Investor's Daily, shouting "How I made $70,000 out of $10,000. Maybe a change in direction for them. I wonder just how well his EXPERT systems work. Anyone using one? Regards, Paul Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2ALF2841 Date: 06/17/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 11:47 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP I read Ted Young's remarks in INVST614. I can appreciate his concern that copyrighted material they produce not be indiscriminately appropriated by others. However, the exposure and good PR they could obtain by allowing their BBS comments to be distributed via investments-related boards is too valuable to discard arbitrarily. PC Magazine had a similar problem with their copyrighted utility programs. They addressed it by allowing liberal distribution if the board doing the distribution received no compensation for it. There are other good examples. Other than free time on Exec, I can assure you that I receive no compensation and Bob's compensation isn't affected one whit by whether we have PC Magazine utilities or Dr. Young's comments on this board. Hope they think about it and reconsider. -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMC2211 Date: 06/18/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:36 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Joe, Your comments are, as ever, perceptive, enlightening, and - well, I could go on and on. Your comments about Ted's "policy" were sent along to the Interlink. We'll see if he reads them and reconsiders. In the meantime, INVST617.ZIP is here. See you when I get back from London. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AMG0686 Date: 06/18/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 12:11 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Will be interested in Ted's thoughts. I certainly can't blame them for trying to protect their intellectual property. BTW, there are easier ways to cure rickets rather than flying off to London (or the handle, for that matter). -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AXR1720 Date: 06/28/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:28 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Joe, Ted has replied. But I'm only now catching up on the things since my absence, so I haven't had time to read the Interlink mail to me. (There are 18, count 'em 18, messages waiting for me!) I scanned them quickly. OK, what IS the cure if you're feeling a bit rickety? Branch Rickety Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AZL1413 Date: 06/30/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 05:23 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Well, when I logged on tonight, I had 20 (count 'em, 20) messages waiting for me. I couldn't get on last night, so I have two days of catching up to do my own self. The cure for feeling rickety? Isn't it lots of vitamin C, or is that for scurvy? Are you also a bit scurvy? -=≡{JOE}≡=- (tm) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AZS0116 Date: 06/30/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 11:01 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 25 times) Subj: R: INVST???.ZIP Joe, When _I_ returned, I had a zillion messages to read through. I noted that at one point there were moans and groans that no one was here. Well, you guys certainly made up for that. Plus, I see we have a newly serious conference. No more bullroar here. It's a sober lot for sure. I'll have the latest Interlink stuff ready for uploading soon. I'm not scurvy, just mangy. Shaggy Dog Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEC2746 Date: 06/10/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:45 am To: ALL (Read 36 times) Subj: WSOL608 This was Thursday's Wall Street Online message: *********************************************** Market Commentary by Dr. Howard Young The THURSDAY Report, June 8th, 1989 *********************************************** Our indicators suggest that the market could go higher, but that the risk is still great. I recommend investing in stocks that are coming off a long bottom, that will probably back off only slightly if the market turns down, and that have good upside potential. The group includes Recognition Equipment (REC), a previously recommended stock that has moved from 6 to 7 7/8, but which could go higher; and Cullinet (CUL), another old favorite that is coming back. Also recommended are: Interleaf (LEAF), Gerber Scientific (GRB), Lifetime Corp. (LFT), Software Developers (SDEV), Softsel (SOFS), Micropro (MPRO), and QMS (AQM). Sell if the stock rises quickly and take profits. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEC2924 Date: 06/10/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:48 am To: ALL (Read 35 times) Subj: WSOL COMMENTS This, and the next message, contain the comments for the past few weeks from Wall Street Online BBS: *********************************************** Market Commentary by Dr. Howard Young The WEDNESDAY Report, June 7th, 1989 *********************************************** One of our conservative recommendations, Gabelli (GAB), started to run today, moving up as high as 14 5/8. The closed-end mutual fund probably owns shares --or has a stake -- in some of the takeover companies. The Zweig Fund (ZF) was as high as 11 1/4, and if the market moves higher, it should follow suit. The DJIA is making another attempt to reach the 2550 area. Our indicators are in a strange, ambivalent state. Either we will be getting a sharp move up in a short time or we will fall 100 to 200 points. Unfortunately, except for the fact that the move will be a sharp one, the direction of the move is not clear: our indicators are still giving off mixed signals. The best strategy would be to buy out-of-the-money OEX puts and calls or to buy calls on good stocks and some OEX puts as a hedge. As soon as our indicators agree, I will establish a portfolio recommendation. I will have a special message on tomorrow (Thursday) evening's hotline and hope that the signals will be clear enough to enable me to make some recommendations. As the pundits say, when in doubt, sit it out -- or hedge. Previous Market Commentary The MONDAY Report, June 5th, 1989 Our indicators, which were giving off mixed signals, were all at the top of the range, but I thought there might be one more swing up. I estimated that the top might be around the 2560 area. (It actually topped out at 2530.) However, because of the mixed signals, I recommended exercising caution at this level. My suggestion that you take profits quickly is based on the likelihood - -given our current indicators -- that this back-and-forth type of market will continue to be the norm in the near future. Investing in options, as I suggested, may be the best strategy because in that way, if there is a sudden crash, you would not be stuck with a major investment in the market. I hope you are also following the play-it-safe strategy of investing no more than 30% of your money in the market. Where do we go from here? The indicators are still sending mixed signals. As a result, we could have some more profit-taking and the market would then move back up to test the previous high of 2530. I would stand aside for now, at least until the indicators provide some basis for a conclusion about market direction for the near term. The first support line is at the 2450 level. If we continue to go down by about 100-150 points, then this would suggest we may be in a continuation fo the bear market and a major crash is possible. Previous Market Commentary The SUNDAY Report, June 4th, 1989 Our market predictions have been accurate to date, and -- based on the reading of our current indicators -- the market should move higher. The best strategy at this stage is to buy calls on indices and the stocks that we have mentioned, thereby preserving capital in the event that the downturn comes earlier than expected. Gold may finally be getting ready to make its move, and options on Hecla Mining (HL) are our choice for participating in this move. The July 12 1/2 HL should prove profitable. A good way to participate in the rally with some degree of safety is to buy the Zweig Fund, which has gone up 3/8 since our recommendation, and the Gabelli Fund, which has also moved up 3/8 of a point. You can still buy them at this level. However, you should buy enough so that you can make a profit on a half-point move. I will soon be setting up the portfolio for this hotline and will provide buy/sell levels for stocks mentioned, as well as the indices and the DJIA. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEC3045 Date: 06/10/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:50 am To: ALL (Read 33 times) Subj: WSOL COMMENT 2 The rest of the Wall Street Online messages: Previous Market Commentary The WEDNESDAY Report, May 31st, 1989 Our indicators are still giving off mixed signals, but they suggest that there might be more room on the upside, possibly to 2560. Reebok again looks as if it is ready to make another move to 15, but it has made these attempts many times before and has not succeeded. I have opted to buy the July 15 calls as an inexpensive (although risky) way to participate. Note: I have decided, after talking with many of you, to introduce some uniformity in the hotline. The framework will always be the same: I will first indicate our predictions as to short-term market direction and then the direction for the intermediate term (3 months or longer). I will then set up a portfolio and indicate at what levels stocks can be purchased and when to consider selling. This will enable everyone to keep up with our many recommendations. If this approach is useful, I will continue to use it in the future. Previous Market Commentary The SUNDAY Report, May 28th, 1989 Our indicators are still giving mixed signals, but they favor the upside. Favorites will be the high quality issues, such as AT&T (T), GE, Ford (F) and Phillips (P). Stock prices of small companies are exploding. One of our recommendations, CCTC (you had to have patience for this one), moved in a narrow range for months, but last week moved from 2 1/4 to 3 1/4, a 40% rise. Barry Wright (BAR), another of our recent recommendations, moved from 5 1/4 to 7 1/2 in one day, also, a 40% rise. The Zweig Fund (ZF) moves slowly, but is a safe bet to be bought in quantity: it pays a dividend of almost 10%. Scitex (SCIFX) continues to move higher, and reached 13 3/8 last week. Seagate (SGAT) could move to 17/18; Mattel (MAT) to 16; and Josten (JOS) to 23/24. Stay invested with about 20 to 30% of your funds and hedge with puts if you own many stocks. Risktakers can buy June OEX 310 calls, preferably at 1 or lower. Another good buy is Phillips (P) Aug 25 calls at about 3/4. Previous Market Commentary The Wednesday Report, May 24th, 1989 The market, as we anticipated, backed off briefly and although we might have some sideways movement, it appears ready to start moving higher. Our indicators are giving off mixed signals: some are still calling for a further drop in the Dow 30. However, a key indicator that has been correct, the Advance/Decline Line is signalling another move higher. One of our stock recommendations, one that we've often said will move higher, Barry Wright (BAR), moved from 5 1/8 to 7 1/2 in one day. Patience sometimes pays off. Another of our favorites, Chips & Technologies (CHPS), which moved in a few days from 18 to 25, backed off briefly to 23 1/2 but did not stay down for long and closed at 24 3/4, a strong showing. I forgot to mention that this stock has options. At this stage, buying puts and calls on the OEX is the best atrategy for this type of market. The June OEX 310 calls and the June 290 puts appear to be the best bets. As for stocks, I still like Phillips (P), which also has options; Telephone (T); GE; and Reebok (RBK). I recommend Beverly (BEV) for the patient. Our Japanese Yen Expert System is near a buy signal, which suggests that the dollar will be moving lower soon. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEC3243 Date: 06/10/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:54 am To: ALL (Read 34 times) Subj: INVESTOR'S ONLINE The latest from Don Shepherdson's Investor's Online BBS: Msg: #4649 Sec: 0 - E-MAIL 07-Jun-89 01:12 PM Subj: LONDON EXCHANGE From: Brian P. Lewin To: SYSOP Buy Standard and Chartered Bank and any other stocks with Hong Kong exposure for some retracement of the sheer scale of the crash. Also Swire Pacific, I think and Hutchison Whampoa. I continue to like EK, HNZ, K, MDR, LA, MER, (but only as a stock, I'm not recommending it to my clients as a potential broker!), I might profit take in CL GRA. Regards Brian Msg: #4650 Sec: 1 - GENERAL 07-Jun-89 05:16 PM Subj: #4640 - hale/track data (R) From: David Runkle To: Joel Tepp (X) I understand that Genesis Data will supply All of the stocks in the S&P for something like $55 a month, net. It doesn't take very many stocks to make that a bargain. Of course, when would one get time to look at them all? It would be nice to start collecting data for the rest of them, though, as in a year or so, it would be a pretty nice database, especially with big hard disks... It could be stored offline, though, with just a minimum stored for easy retrieval. Msg: #4651 Sec: 1 - GENERAL 07-Jun-89 05:23 PM Subj: 386 users (R) From: David Runkle To: ALL I have a program called Ganntrader that I am having trouble running under Deskview on my 386. It took me some time to figure out how to get it to load, and now after doing that, and working it properly (it is primarily a chart-printing program that accesses my data and sends to the printer), I cannot jump out of it while it is printing, to get into another program. Most everything else I have will work great, two or more at a time (Computrac crunching data while the word processer is going and maybe a spreadsheet also, for instance) but this Ganntrader is giving me fits! Can anyone help? The software developer is not familiar with Deskview, or maybe not even with the 386 either. The program is written in "compiled Basic." Thanks if anyone can help... Msg: #4654 Sec: 1 - GENERAL 08-Jun-89 05:46 PM Subj: #4650 - hale/track data From: Joel Tepp To: David Runkle It's fun to think about that kind of database. Because I am not a money manager per se, my analytical focus is on a manageable number of issues, and the initial screen is fundamental. I currently spend $15-20 per month for the data I need. The $40 per month I'd save vs the Genesis Data more than compensates for the occasional extra charge for back data on a half dozen additions to the personal database. Also, a lot of the things I make the most money from are not in the S&P 500 (Whitehall, the 1989 pick I posted on the board last December is an example, all the Americus Trust components, which I have to get around to getting data on, is another Msg: #4655 Sec: 1 - GENERAL 08-Jun-89 05:49 PM Subj: #4651 - 386 users From: Joel Tepp To: David Runkle Pardon my stoneage solution, but this sounds like a situation where an old fashioned spooler would supplement nicely. By the way, the Metastock people are very familiar with Deskview and might be willing to be of some assistance. Msg: #4656 Sec: 1 - GENERAL 08-Jun-89 08:59 PM Subj: SILVER From: Bob Burozski To: ANYONE Does anyone know a good stock for a pure play in silver? I don't want a total crap shoot but would go for a Vancouver stock if it was producing and trading at a published PE. BOB BUROZSKI. Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEE1424 Date: 06/10/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 10:23 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: INVESTOR'S ONLINE Clem, next time you're on Don Shepherdson's BBS, tell Dave Runkle that BASIC (compiled or otherwise) takes over a lot of interrupt vectors (i.e., assumes that it's the only thing running on the system), which would cause problems with DESQview or any other multitasking program. I've tried to compile QuickBASIC programs and then run them under DESQview and have had mixed success, mostly bad. I can't get my SMARTZIP program (written in QB 4.5 and compiled to a .EXE file) to do anything other than lock up DV. Give Dave my warmest regards and ask him when he's going to feel up to gracing Exec with his venerable presence once more. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AFN3548 Date: 06/11/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 07:59 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: INVESTOR'S ONLINE Joe, I'll do just that. I don't think that Dave will ever again grace this BBS. He allowed as much to Don a while back. He'll stay local with Investor's Online for the time being. Oh, well, maybe I can coax him back, though the last time I tried, he didn't respond. Maybe I'll pass our remarks to him there, like I do to Interlink. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AGM1985 Date: 06/12/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:33 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: INVESTOR'S ONLINE That's a shame. Did Dave say why he was going to abandon Exec? -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHR0230 Date: 06/13/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 10:03 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: INVESTOR'S ONLINE Joe, You must understand that Dave said this many, many months ago. He told Investor's Online Sysop Don Shepherdson that he found the new menu system of EXEC too complicated. Accordingly, he said he would let his membership in EXEC lapse and restrict his calls to Investor's Online. If he has changed his mind, as he allowed to Mike in their conversation of a few days ago, it'd be welcome news. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEJ2845 Date: 06/10/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 03:47 pm To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: DAVE WHO Message CC'd to: CLEM CONTARDO JOE VINCENT I read the messages from Dave that were uploaded from Investors bbs., and gave him a call. It seems like things are getting much better, and he said that he might call here in a week, or so. He said that he was getting his charts up to date before he would get back into tradeing. MIKE.................. Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEJ2852 Date: 06/10/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 03:47 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 4 times) Subj: DAVE WHO Message CC'd to: CLEM CONTARDO JOE VINCENT I read the messages from Dave that were uploaded from Investors bbs., and gave him a call. It seems like things are getting much better, and he said that he might call here in a week, or so. He said that he was getting his charts up to date before he would get back into tradeing. MIKE.................. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AEK3256 Date: 06/10/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 04:54 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO Mike, you're certainly a man of action. Good to hear that Dave might be back on in a week or so. If he's getting his charts up to date, he's showing a sense of purpose and direction. As I've often said, "Life is something to do and something to look forward to." Without either, life is pretty dismal. Dave now appears to have both. Looking forward to his appearance. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AFE3063 Date: 06/11/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 10:51 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 29 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO JOE, I think that Dave was kind of worried about how complicated EXEC was to use. When he tried getting back before, the system was a mess. MIKE................ Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AFG2113 Date: 06/11/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 12:35 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 29 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO If Dave just manages to get singed on, I'm sure we'll all cooperate to make sure he learns the intricacies of the new system fast. Anybody who understands commodities will not have a problem with Exec. I guess we're so used to it, it's second nature to us ─ we don't appreciate how intimidating it can seem to those who haven't used it before. That's the way I feel about CI$; I don't use it enough to feel comfortable with it. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AFP0185 Date: 06/11/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 08:03 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 30 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO Mike, That's good news about Dave, re his health and his calling here. As I said to Joe, he once upon a time told Don Shepherdson he wouldn't call EXEC again. Found the new system too complicated. I sent him a message offering to help him navigate here, but he didn't reply. It'd be great to see him back. Clem C Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AG10853 Date: 06/12/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:14 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO JOE, I know what you mean. If only I had enough time to play with my computers, I wouldn't be so intimidated. MIKE............... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AG11222 Date: 06/12/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 12:20 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO CLEM, He mentioned that you sent him a message on Don's board, and he seemed to be a bit embaressed that he didn't answer it. He said that you said hi. I couldn't believe that with your Ableson vocabulary that you only said hi. MIKE.............. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHQ3491 Date: 06/13/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:58 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO Mike, He shouldn't be embarrassed. My Ablesonian vocabulary? Forfend. I'm at a loss for words to answer that vituperation. I'm sputtering with fierce indignation. (Or is it that I'm indigo with apoplexy? And do you own any apoplexy stock. John Sculley, its venerable CEO, - well, never mind.) If I said only hi - which I hi-ly doubt, as I'm usually more verbose than that - then it must have been the time the cat had my tongue. (This was after he took and sat in my hat.) Dr. Suess Cheese Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AI12019 Date: 06/14/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 01:33 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO CLEM, How does one sputter with fierce indignation? I had to sell my apoplexy stock when the calls that I wrote on it got exercised. ( fifty pushups, and 100 situps) MIKE............ Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AJQ0432 Date: 06/15/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:07 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 32 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO Mike, Are you sure they were exercised and not exorcised? (You'd know if you went a little green around the gills.) Can't even begin to explain how one stutters so. It just has to be seen to be appreciated. Purple Haze Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AK10914 Date: 06/16/89 From: MICHAEL PERRY Time: 01:15 am To: CLEM CONTARDO (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO CLEM, I remember Rick was a little green around the gills when I caught him while I was fishing. That's why I threw him back. -={MIKE}=-(mt) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AKQ2743 Date: 06/16/89 From: CLEM CONTARDO Time: 09:45 pm To: MICHAEL PERRY (Rcvd) (Read 28 times) Subj: R: DAVE WHO Mike, If you caught him in a sensitive spot, it was no wondering he was green around the gills. Hope he's healed by now. The Gill Man (aka Creature From the Black Lagoon) Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AGG2721 Date: 06/12/89 From: DON BEILFUSS Time: 12:45 pm To: ALL (Read 36 times) Subj: THE EQUALIZER I recently got a copy of "The Equalizer" investment package put out by Schwab. Has anyone else tried this package? It seems pretty complete including the ability to do online trading 24 hours a day with their computer system -- trades being executed as soon as possible after trading opens in any specific category that you queue up trades for. I still have to do a lot of wading through the documentation so I can't talk very intelligently about the product. Hopefully, I can say more about it in a few days. In the meantime, if anyone else knows anything about it, I'd appreciate hearing from you on it. Following thread Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AGM2541 Date: 06/12/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:42 pm To: DON BEILFUSS (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: THE EQUALIZER Don, I requested and received some literature about The Equalizer, but it was essentially the same as Fidelity's Investors Express, which I've used since it was announced, so I didn't switch. All such on-line trading tools have the same fatal flaw for me: they don't accommodate multiple transactions which need to be executed as a group (e.g., straddles). I don't like to do naked trades, so on-line trading is of little benefit to me. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHC3443 Date: 06/13/89 From: DON BEILFUSS Time: 08:57 am To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 33 times) Subj: R: THE EQUALIZER I'll have to check that out. I got the impression that you could use the Equalizer to queue up multiple trades to accomplish a straddle. Thanks for the tip on something to look for... Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AHM0782 Date: 06/13/89 From: JOE VINCENT (Leader) Time: 06:13 pm To: DON BEILFUSS (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: THE EQUALIZER Sure, you can queue up multiple trades, but there's no guarantee that you'll get the spread or the volume you want. That is, there's no way to make multiple trades interdependent. Suppose I want to do a debit spread on 10 option contracts. There's no way to specify that the trades be executed as a unit with a particular spread, all or none. What happens if you get one side executed but not the other? Or you get the ten contracts on one side but fewer than ten on the other? All kinds of ugly scenarios can be imagined. -=≡{JOE}≡=- Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AIQ2203 Date: 06/14/89 From: DON BEILFUSS Time: 09:36 pm To: JOE VINCENT (Rcvd) (Read 35 times) Subj: R: THE EQUALIZER Ah ha! Now I get what you mean. Well, it sounds like a good suggestion for the next release of the product. So far, everything seems to work very well. Conf: NON-COMPUTER Topic: INVESTMENT Ref: 2AJG0793 Date: 06/15/89 From: PAUL JALOSKY Time: 12:13 pm To: DON BEILFUSS (Rcvd) (Read 34 times) Subj: R: THE EQUALIZER I'm on my first upgrade (2.0) myself. You should receive or get a copy of the DJ News Rerieval User's Guide, it helps negotiate the system. I had problems with Ver. 1.5, it will not recognize some modems. This version had problems at 2400 Baud, but seems to work okay with a upgrade disk they sent. I haven't done any trading with it yet. Takes time to get all the options for a accoun